At the beginning of 2023, Tim Rodenbröker and I were invited to Munich to have a conversation with Max from Moby Digg for the Podcast “Taaalks”. Max, being a very smart guy and skilled interviewer, touched on a lot of subjects Tim and I haven’t spoken about publicly before. You can watch the video, but as we think the written word gives you the freedom to think and reflect at your own pace, we decided to make an edited transcript of the video, and there is a lot to reflect on and unpack further in future conversations.